Curse

The Muffen Man · Jul 21, 2008, 04:33 PM // 16:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by moriz

it's not a simple matter of converting currency rahja. it's a different continent, and commodity prices are subjected to different amounts of supply/demand, and can be quite different in prices.

it's generally better to list us a few european E-tailers and we'll configure a system for you.

Yeah and don't forget the VAT here in Ireland its 21%

Snograt · Jul 21, 2008, 04:36 PM // 16:36

Ye gods - and I thought our 17.5% was high

The Muffen Man · Jul 21, 2008, 05:49 PM // 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snograt

Ye gods - and I thought our 17.5% was high

Yep

Well I couldn't wait till Christmas

I got a new gaming PC for exactly €2000 including shipping.

- Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 GO 2.40GHz Quad Core CPU Overclocked too a minimum of 3.30GHz and beyond. (8/9 x 400MHz - 1600MHz FSB) OC'd to 3.4Ghz

Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Intel approved cooler

Arctic Silver 5 Heatsink compound

Asus Rampage Formula Intel X48 (Socket LGA775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard

Corsair Dominator 4GB PC2-8500 CAS5 (2x2GB) Dual Channel Kit (Overclocked at 1000MHz+)

(1TB) Samsung Spinpoint F1 SATA-II Interface, 7200RPM Spin Speed, 32MB Cache

2X Sapphire HD4870 in Xfire

Corsair TX 750W Next Generation Power Supply

Antec 900 gaming case

Vista Home Premium 64 bit

24" 1920x1200 wide screen S-Pva Monitor (not TN film) the monitor is amazing

2.1 Logitech speakers

(already have a Logitech wireless mouse and keyboard LX 700)

I'm very happy with this system the cable management is excellent they did a really good job with it considering what a pig the case is for cable management.

I got 620 fps playing GW lol

Just need to get back a SATA DVD-RW so I can install some new games to really see what this rig has got to offer.

Snograt · Jul 21, 2008, 06:17 PM // 18:17

Awesome - nice picks.

When the Corsair memory blows up, come back and we'll tell you what to do.

(Only half kidding - you'll probably be ok

)

The Muffen Man · Jul 21, 2008, 06:34 PM // 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snograt

Awesome - nice picks.

When the Corsair memory blows up, come back and we'll tell you what to do.

(Only half kidding - you'll probably be ok

)

OMG!!!

why would it blow up? is there something wrong with corsair memory? I thought it was crucial memory that's a bit iffy or did I get them mixed up?

moriz · Jul 21, 2008, 06:53 PM // 18:53

well, rahja (our all powerful mod) seriously dislikes corsair because a few sticks blew up on him.

overall though, the quality difference is generally not significant. the actual differences between well-known brands are tiny.

if those sticks hold up for a couple weeks, then they should hold up for a long time. almost all hardware defects show up either immediately or in a few days.

Snograt · Jul 21, 2008, 07:03 PM // 19:03

Note: dont worry! "Blow up" in the sense of fail - they won't literally explode. They're C5, not C4 (I just made a tech pun )

Hannes · Jul 21, 2008, 07:11 PM // 19:11

lol and to quote Rahja...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

If you buy Corsair RAM, I will personally come and hunt you down.

<font color="red" font size="4">Just say NO to Corsair!</font>

Go with Crucial or Gskill.

Lord Sojar · Jul 22, 2008, 03:49 AM // 03:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by moriz

well, rahja (our all powerful mod) seriously dislikes corsair because a few sticks blew up on him.

That is only 1/4 of the reasoning.

Corsair is like a mutt dog company. They use the cheapest memory fabs they can find. Crucial is a purest company, they use Micron exclusively. Micron and Samsung are considered the best fabs of memory you can use.

Gskill uses a lot of Samsung fabs, and Crucial uses Micron. OCZ is heavy on Samsung use. Team is also a great company, almost forgot about them.

moriz · Jul 22, 2008, 01:04 PM // 13:04

well, it depends on the expected longevity and usefulness of the RAM module.

if the average crucial ram can last 10 years due to good fabs, and the average corsair ram can last 5 years due to cheap fabs.... then.... who cares? i know i'm really pulling numbers out of my ass, but 5-10 years is the expected life of most electronics.

in the rapidly changing tech world, having a product that can outlive its actual USEFUL life is a waste of money. this is especially true for enthusiast market, which these products are targeted, since most of us will upgrade more often than every 5 years (i myself will upgrade once every 2 years, and that's considered a pretty long time for a power user).

TheGuildWarsPenguin · Jul 22, 2008, 03:02 PM // 15:02

Rahja, you have Corsair in the "good RAM" section of your RAM guide though.

imnotyourmother · Jul 22, 2008, 03:18 PM // 15:18

was this your ping?

"I got 620 fps playing GW lol"

My computer is 3 years old and my ping is 35 to 90 most of the time with my high speed internet

moriz · Jul 22, 2008, 03:38 PM // 15:38

no, that's his frames per second.

The Muffen Man · Jul 22, 2008, 05:12 PM // 17:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

was this your ping?

"I got 620 fps playing GW lol"

My computer is 3 years old and my ping is 35 to 90 most of the time with my high speed internet

My ping can be all over the place that's because I'm in Ireland and Ireland is the backwater of the high speed internet of Europe

My ping can be anywhere from 60-600 but normally averages at around 200.

I'm on a 2 megabit package for €30 a month with a 20Gb quota both ways.

I just called my ISP there yesterday to upgrade to the next package which is 7.6 Mb for €40 and was told that I would have to email them my request, but I haven't heard from them yet.

You would think they would get back to me straight away.

Snograt · Jul 22, 2008, 05:40 PM // 17:40

That email probably took you over the tight-arse 20GB limit.

zamial · Jul 22, 2008, 07:20 PM // 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by moriz

well, it depends on the expected longevity and usefulness of the RAM module.

if the average crucial ram can last 10 years due to good fabs, and the average corsair ram can last 5 years due to cheap fabs.... then.... who cares? i know i'm really pulling numbers out of my ass, but 5-10 years is the expected life of most electronics.

in the rapidly changing tech world, having a product that can outlive its actual USEFUL life is a waste of money. this is especially true for enthusiast market, which these products are targeted, since most of us will upgrade more often than every 5 years (i myself will upgrade once every 2 years, and that's considered a pretty long time for a power user).

I 100% agree with your reasoning here BUT micron chips will overclock better than non-micron. From our users post we know he/she/it overclocks....

moriz · Jul 22, 2008, 07:30 PM // 19:30

then muffen (haha, it) is currently limited by the CPU FSB right now. the OP will have to overclock that CPU severely before he/she/it needs to even touch the memory clocks.

unless of course, you're talking about the memory timings... which makes very little difference in gaming usually.

Snograt · Jul 22, 2008, 08:02 PM // 20:02

But 4-4-4-12 looks so much nicer than 5-5-5-18

Lord Sojar · Jul 23, 2008, 06:18 AM // 06:18

Still, why pay the same amount of money for an inferior brand? That seems silly to me. Corsair overcharges and under performs.

The Muffen Man · Aug 04, 2008, 06:58 PM // 18:58

Well what do you know!!! one of my corsair dominator sticks failed on me last night!!!

was playing Age of Conan last night (yeah I know waist of €50

) then all of a sudden BLAH POOP @#!*% BAMP computer reboots and gets stuck on
det mem or words to that effect on the lcd poster.

So I took the over clock off and tried the sticks individually and one of them would POST.

So back they go, no computer for however long it takes to get new ones back

Damn you Corsair damn you!!!

/shakes fist